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My Mother died in 2013, and I used TurboTax Premier to prepare her 2013 tax return. After applying $3,000 of her long-term capital loss in 2013, she has over $60,000 carry-over remaining. I'm now using TurboTax Business to do the tax return for my Mother's Irrevocable Trust. Can any of her long-term capital loss carry-over be applied to her Trust?
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
Capital lossesbelong to the decedent. Capital losses incurred in the year of death, as well asany capital loss carryovers, can be used only on the decedent's final income tax return. Any capital loss carryoversthat are not used on the final return for the decedentare essentially lost.
Per Rev. Rul. 74-175:
A capital loss and a net operating loss from business operations sustained by a decedent during his last taxable year are deductible only on the final return filed in his behalf; such losses are not deductible by his estate.
Seehttp://www.legalbitstream.com/scripts/isyswebext.dll?op=get&uri=/isysquery/irl1a38/1/doc
See alsoSee also https://www.irs.gov/publications/p559/ar02.html#en_US_2015_publink100099527
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
Capital lossesbelong to the decedent. Capital losses incurred in the year of death, as well asany capital loss carryovers, can be used only on the decedent's final income tax return. Any capital loss carryoversthat are not used on the final return for the decedentare essentially lost.
Per Rev. Rul. 74-175:
A capital loss and a net operating loss from business operations sustained by a decedent during his last taxable year are deductible only on the final return filed in his behalf; such losses are not deductible by his estate.
Seehttp://www.legalbitstream.com/scripts/isyswebext.dll?op=get&uri=/isysquery/irl1a38/1/doc
See alsoSee also https://www.irs.gov/publications/p559/ar02.html#en_US_2015_publink100099527
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
I think I may have found the answer to my question. In IRS Publication 559 "Survivers, Executors, and Administrators", page 6 Deduction for Losses, it states, " You cannot deduct any unused net operating or capital loss on the estate's income tax return."
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
How do you get Turbo Tax to enter all the longterm losses?
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
If you transferred last year's TurboTax return over, you don't have to do a thing—we've already entered it for you.
Otherwise, just open your TurboTax return, search forcapital loss carryover, and then select theJump tolink in the search results.
We'll take you to the screen where you can enter that info from your prior year return.
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
I did that, but because date of death is 2020, the entire amount of capital losses should be taken, and TurboTax is only taking $3000. I 've tried everything I can think of, including overwriting the amount, but I am afraid it won't be accepted for e-file.
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
@rennermr
Are you preparing a final return for a decedent (i.e., a personal income tax return, Form 1040) or an estate or trust income tax return (Form 1041)?
If you are preparing a final 1040 for the decedent, the maximum net capital loss that can be deducted against other income is $3,000; there is no carryover and losses in excess of that amount are simply gone.
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
Yes, I am preparing the final return 1040 for the decedent. It was my understanding that all capital losses may be taken on the final personal return 1040.
March 14, 20212:32 PM
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
@rennermrwrote:It was my understanding that all capital losses may be taken on the final personal return 1040.
That is incorrect as there is no difference with regard to capital losses on a final 1040 (the limit continues to be $3,000 to be deducted against other income).
Further, all assets are generally marked up (or down) to their fair market value as of the date of death. Obviously, that could involve unrealized losses being lost forever.
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
Wrong!!! According to tax law all capital loss carryover can be taken in the decadents final tax return and Turbotax cannot figure it out!!! Very dissatisfied with this!!
March 7, 20238:20 PM
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
But the decedent’s final tax return can claim all of the carryover and even though I put the date of death and it’s the final return Turbotax does not apply more than 3,000. How can I get Turbotax to recognize a final return and take the full loss??
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
You are wrong!!! Check the tax code for final return!!
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
This is wrong!!
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Can long-term capital loss from a deceased person carry over to her trust?
@BCpilotwrote:You are wrong!!! Check the tax code for final return!!
Do you have cite for your proposition? I am certain that you do not.
I have Rev. Rul. 74-175.
A capital loss carryforward is simply lost upon death.
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